Interview with Matthias Noback – Voices of the ElePHPant

Cal Evans hosts his friend Matthias Noback as they talk about Domain Driven Design and Matthias’ new book “Recipes for Decoupling.

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RingCentral Developers

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PHP Internals News: Episode 101: More Partially Supported Callable Deprecations – Derick Rethans

PHP Internals News: Episode 101: More Partially Supported Callable Deprecations

In this episode of “PHP Internals News” I talk with Juliette Reinders Folmer (Website, Twitter, GitHub) about the “More Partially Supported Callable Deprecations” RFC that she has proposed.

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Derick Rethans 0:14

Hi, I’m Derick. Welcome to PHP internals news, the podcast dedicated to explaining the latest developments in the PHP language. This is episode 101. Today I’m talking with Juliette Reinders Folmer, about the Expand Deprecation Notice Scope for Partially supported Callables RFC that she’s proposing. That’s quite a mouthful. I think you should shorten the title. Juliette, would you please introduce yourself?

Juliette Reinders Folmer 0:37

You’re starting with the hardest questions, because introducing myself is something I never know how to do. So let’s just say I’m a PHP developer and I work in open source, nearly all the time.

Derick Rethans 0:50

Mostly related to WordPress as far as I understand?

Juliette Reinders Folmer 0:52

Nope, mostly related to actually CLI tools. Things like PHP Unit polyfills. Things like PHP Code Sniffer, PHP parallel Lint. I spend the majority of my time on CLI tools, and only a small portion of my time consulting on the things for WordPress, like keeping that cross version compatible.

Derick Rethans 1:12

All right, very well. I actually did not know that. So I learned something new already.

Juliette Reinders Folmer 1:16

Yeah, but it’s nice. You give me the chance now to correct that image. Because I notice a lot of people see me in within the PHP world as the voice of WordPress and vice versa, by the way in WordPress world to see me as far as PHP. And in reality, I do completely different things. There is a perception bias there somewhere and which has slipped in.

Derick Rethans 1:38

It’s good to clear that up then.

Juliette Reinders Folmer 1:39

Yeah, thank you.

Derick Rethans 1:40

Let’s have a chat about the RFC itself then. What is the problem that is RFC is trying to solve?

Juliette Reinders Folmer 1:46

There was an RFC or 8.2 which has already been approved in October, which deprecates partially supported callables. Now for those people listening who do not know enough about that RFC, partially supported callables are callables which you can call via a function like call_user_func that which you can’t assign to variable and then call as a variable. Sometimes you can call them just by using the syntax which you used for defining the callable, so not as variable but as the actual literal.

Derick Rethans 2:20

And as an example here, that is, for example, static colon colon function name, for example.

Juliette Reinders Folmer 2:26

Absolutely, yeah.

Derick Rethans 2:27

Which you can use with call_user_func by having two array elements. You can call it with literal syntax, but you can’t assign it to a variable and then call it. Do I get that, right?

Juliette Re

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Much ado about null – Larry Garfield

Much ado about null

Submitted by Larry on 13 May 2022 – 11:24am

null has a controversial history. It’s been called “the billion-dollar mistake” by its creator. Most languages implement null, but those few that do not (such as Rust) are generally lauded for their smart design by eliminating a class of errors entirely. Many developers (myself included) have argued that code that uses null or nullable parameters/returns is intrinsically a code smell to be avoided, while others (also myself included, naturally) have argued that is too draconian of a stance to take.

Anna Filina has a very good three-part series (properties, parameters, and returns) on how to avoid null in PHP generally. Alexis King has a related post (excuse the Haskell) on how to avoid needing edge cases like null in the first place.

However, I want to go a bit deeper and try to understand null from a different angle, and tease out the nuance of why one would really want to use it, and thus what we should be doing instead. To get there we’ll have to go through a tiny little bit of type theory, but it will be quick and painless, I swear.

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Xdebug Update: April 2022 – Derick Rethans

Xdebug Update: April 2022

In this monthly update I explain what happened with Xdebug development in this past month. These are normally published on the first Tuesday on or after the 5th of each month.

Patreon and GitHub supporters will get it earlier, around the first of each month.

You can become a patron or support me through GitHub Sponsors. I am currently 46% towards my $2,500 per month goal. If you are leading a team or company, then it is also possible to support Xdebug through a subscription.

In April, I spend 29 hours on Xdebug, with 27 hours funded.

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